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Old 08-14-2009, 01:45 PM
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There's more to this than a simple performance increase. If the clutching can be "simplified", yet still operate the same with no loss of useful service life, then it's worthwhile from that standpoint alone. There will be (maybe) a small gain since there'll be a reduction in rotating mass by removing the dust cover and grease. Less weight means that it'll spool up quicker!
Maybe .... and maybe the gain would be so small, one would never know or feel it ..... but tell ya what ..... why don't you buy the parts & be the "Test Crash Dummy" for the rest of us ............ WHAT ??
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Here ya go ... I'm not so sure he even read my first e-mail questions ....

This sounds a little more encouraging ... and I've asked him about the cam plate ....

Here's his latest reply ....

"If you do the roller instead of the overdrive you can use them."
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Well ....... I ordered a set ... guess I'll be the Guinea Pig as Mack put it :o ....... now, before I ordered them I asked about the cam plate & sliders and he wrote back ... "Yeah, you need the cam plate too" .... so I ordered the roller weights, the cam plate & the sliders ... and his stuff is Free Shipping ......

So .... after I get'em, get'em installed & get to run them a time or two, I'll do a little write up ....

This should be interesting ....
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Awwww Now you're gonna get to have all the fun before me! Well write it up A.S.A.P. so that we'll all have time to order a set for Christmas!
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Well Bob, I'll get-r-done asap ... but don't be too in a hurry just yet ... I may be ask'in you to float me a load to fix my clutch back to a greasy mess .... :o
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Yamaha uses grease due to weak roller cover material. The Suzuki King Quad, has the exact same setup. But a different material for the covers (and they wont fit the grizz weights), and they are able to run greaseless. However the yami ones will get brittle with the heat, and over time will crack and break, leaving fragments of plastic inside your clutch, jamming things up.
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If you don't have any grease in the primary and pop that 8-screwed cover out of the way, will enough crap get in there to jam up the parts that have to do the sliding in and out? (This one actually woke me up in the middle of the night...)
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Yamaha uses grease due to weak roller cover material. The Suzuki King Quad, has the exact same setup. But a different material for the covers (and they wont fit the grizz weights), and they are able to run greaseless. However the yami ones will get brittle with the heat, and over time will crack and break, leaving fragments of plastic inside your clutch, jamming things up.
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If you don't have any grease in the primary and pop that 8-screwed cover out of the way, will enough crap get in there to jam up the parts that have to do the sliding in and out? (This one actually woke me up in the middle of the night...)
Bob, Bob, Bob, .... stop and think about yer question for a minute .... now where is the clutch sheave ?? Yup, under a big ole plastic cover .... so when in the freak'in hell is gonna get in there ?? ..... unless you submerge yer Grizz & suck a ton of muddy water in there ... in which case, cover or not ... yer gonna get crap in there ... right ??
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What about the snorkle leading down into the the clutching?? Trail dust is a HUGE issue with us; even with as damp as this summer has been. Each year I gain about five pounds just from the dust that I've inhaled during the riding season... (That's my story and I'm sticking to it!)
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What about the snorkle leading down into the the clutching?? Trail dust is a HUGE issue with us; even with as damp as this summer has been. Each year I gain about five pounds just from the dust that I've inhaled during the riding season... (That's my story and I'm sticking to it!)
Heeeeey ...... I'm gonna start using that story !! ..... That's a good'un !!!

I really don't get much if any dust down my intact .... belt intake that is .... remember, I usually ride alone .... and if I do ride with others, they always want me to lead .... so not only do I not eat much dust ... the sceneary is always chang'in fer me .... .... if I'm not lead'in, I usually hang back far enough not to eat much of the brown stuff ..... HOWEVER ... a small snorkle on that belt intake wouldn't be a bad idea either .... also to keep powder snow from being sucked down into the clutch ....
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